One-third of youth in wandering would be children of the Dass and half have no diploma




30.000 to 50.000 young 18 to 24 years occur in a situation of great precariousness or wandering.
Some researchers cite a figure of 100,000.
One-third of youth in wandering would be children of the Dass and half have no diploma.
"When they approach the majority, ESA avoids mobilize for some youth adrift, runaway repeat offenders"
by simply wait until they are 18 years old, date at which administration no longer has to deal with their case.
"Anyway, we lack adequate structures".

.. .on ignores most of the time become them adults.
If the black figure of an investigation by the national Institute of demographic studies (Ined) in 2006
establishing that40% des SDF âgés de 18 à 24 ans sortaient du dispositif de protection de l’enfance40% aged 18-24 SDF leaving the child protection device.

Gouvieux
These students parents protect children
The case of two children that want to retrieve social services turns iron arm. Department requests the use of force.



C.G. - 13.11.2009 - Le Parisien




A small army of shadows is incorporated in a few days around two children living in foster care in Gouvieux and educated at the school of the Centre. Equipped with a battle and a solid organization plan, parents of pupils are everything to thwart the withdrawal of a brother and a sister of the House in which they were placed five years ago by social services.

Tension is mounted a notch since yesterday and the possibility that enforcement requires the two children to follow the Welfare Department officers strengthens.

The decision to transfer youth ages 6 and 10 and a half to a foster home the Compiégnois had been confirmed by justice on 6 November. Last Tuesday, Yves Rome, the Socialist President of the General Council therefore addressed Senlis flooring so that he understands the prefect, only empowered to authorize the use of public force. The case is even more delicate family lives in a housing service of the Aga Khan. The husband, who is an employee of the Aga Khan Studs works for prince equestrian activities. Yesterday, Patrice Marchand, Mayor UMP Gouvieux and also General Counsel opposition has opted for appeasement (see sidebar). Elected officials, very concerned by the case, physically prevented the first attempts at removal of children on November 2.

«»."We are ready to go far enough"

Social services chose to do so, considering that family Assistant exceeded his role and took "unilateral" for young people. An analysis that shocked commune: "How can one blame a host family too love children?" questioned supportive parents. Since Monday, they organize tours of guard and schedules. Every day children arrive and leave quietly school. Eve continues after 4: 30 pm and the end of the course.

"We developed a network of 100 people," explains Nora Ferhat, President of the association of parents of the school of the Centre, dads and Moms volunteers (VMO's). We have phones of those who are contactable at any time after 4: 30 pm. The first contacted know they need to block Street leading to the House with their car. »
How long lasted such a mobilization? This is the question. "We don't know, but we are ready to go far enough," warns Nora Ferhat on behalf of parents.


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Host families:
people start to speak

Monday, July 12, 2004 - ouest-france

After the testimony of the family of Saint-Viaud who we wanted to withdraw girl Lili (1), 10 years, placed five days has not withdrawn by his Saint-Viaud homestay (West-June 22 France). At the initiative of Patrick Mareschal, President of the General Council, child welfare decided to allow time for reflection. But since this testimony, languages start. Many families, welcome or allowed children under the aegis of the Ddass, ASE or an association speak for institutions that make little attention to their word. And, providing, do not appreciate the love they bear children.

« Du jour au lendemain »«From one day to the next»Mrs d. hosted Bastien in 1 year. At age 13, "virtually overnight, the institution decided that child would be at the boarding school far from here." I asked if it could not be the closest schooling as petit reacted very badly to this decision. I was not given an explanation. An educator told me that a child may grow in suffering. This behavior is unacceptable. There could be no explanation, preparation. "Mrs d. was dismissed. The case is before the courts.

« Fiers de nos enfants »"Proud of our children"Marie-Annick and Joseph P. allowed both twins. They had 4 years. They were kept for 16 years. "Small had 13 years when tried to implement the home." We fought to ensure that these children remain with us and enjoy a family life education. But the institution told us that she wanted to implement the home because loved it too. In fact, social services do not want respond them. They dismiss annoying people, those that focus on children. "The couple alerted Mayor, school principal, morality, witnesses that it deprives not children. Marie-Annick and Joseph is reached. Offspring remained home up to 18 years and older. "We are proud of them, they are our children," say. To otherwise Norbert for his marriage meant to Marie-Annick: "I have a mother, it is you."

« Travail trop personnel » "Personal work"Mrs. l., childminder, think that in the case of Saint-Viaud, he missed a follow-up of social services. "Children grow up and cling." It does not, ten years after, that it will not. Social workers are too personal work. "In terms of decision-making, they have powers that seem to be very exaggerated".

« On m'a brisée » "On me was broken"Mrs f. wishes to say "that great efforts have been made since the left is passed to the General Council", so that social assistance to children's behaviors are changing. It tells what happened to him: "On alleged abuse on children." Social assistance only gave us a chance. Yet, the Mounties have never thought this history. Me was dismissed without proof. Host families, is less than nothing. And from one day to the next day, no longer has the right to see children. When you wanted to know the reasons for such withdrawal, answered us: "you'll see well". But that case has broken me. "Mrs. f., since then, won her lawsuit abuse of power.

"Mail, more more phone""Antonio brought me so much happiness." Liliane has now estranged from this little boy of 8 years allowed for five years. "Everything started when I opposed her school reorientation towards a specialized Institute." Everything ran amok. Liliane was dismissed due to the disagreement. "I was criticized as if I was her mother." These children are not entitled to be loved like others. The homestay is not entitled to intervene in child-rearing. "Liliane regrets that postcards that she sends fail small Antonio. "One day, it is reverra.».

« Cas social »"Social cases"Isabelle has 27 years now and continues to see that saw him grow his Grandma. She had seven months when she arrived in this homestay. "It was 14 when the Ddass removed him to send it in a home." Is prohibited me to call. I was told was to cut the cord. It it is passed in a week. "But facing a depressed Isabelle educator reminded"Granny"so the teenager can return to his childhood home. All weekends and all holidays. "If there had been problems, it have not entrusted me it again." Today, Isabelle is a somewhat chaotic life. "It's a social case." She would stay home, ç' might have been different. »

Marylise COURAUD and Gaspard NORRITO.

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Host families: should it change

Tuesday, July 13, 2004

An interview with Patrick Mareschal, President of the General Council

The testimony of foster families raining down from l'histoire de Lili, 10 years, child welfare wanted to place elsewhere (West-France from Monday). Many have suffered in silence, when the children they hosted, sometimes for years, have been removed. Patrick Mareschal, President of the General Council, is a real problem and wants to, inter alia, conditioning withdrawals to serious situations of abuse.

Child welfare, ASE, which depends on the Council, is, as shown in our stories published yesterday, vilified by a number of host families who have been removed children after several years of custody. Withdrawals without appeal and without real justification. What analysis you situation?

There is an underlying problem. The institution decides herself. The relationship between it and host families are unequal. One, the institution has virtually all rights.

It does not facilitate the necessary dialogue. Lot of childminders have something to say, but are not allowed. The institution is still alive with the idea that it is a State authority unrelated to communities. I also think that child welfare professionals lacking jurisdiction and for which I have a lot of respect, is sometimes stay too long in their function. I don't know if it is a job you can do throughout his life.

ESA to motivate its decision often chided families their emotional investment on children they welcome?
First of all, these children have vocation to return to their biological family. They are not adoptable. Whereas, in fact, after several years in the same family, they are like. It is the ambiguity.
The institution said in foster families: "you have no interest in children." She said what is good or not for the child. Loading a purely hardware servicing families. However, these families can do more that feed, clothe and flaring kids. But, on the does them not.
Is that families are there to offset the lack of places in shelters? I wonder. If these children belong to the institution, then, do not leave them ten years in a family.

How can we restore the situation?
Not forget that the General Council is not master all decisions. It is the judge for children who decided at the beginning of the placement. ESA that handles it. The institution is guardian and sole owner of these children. There may be ultra vires. It does not support the contradiction of the debate. The inquiry of the parents must be considered very carefully. We need to limit withdrawals from foster children to serious situations of abuse. There are still too many cases where children are removed because there is a disagreement about what is good or not for the child, for example in terms of educational counselling. And, finally, it is ESA Inspector decides only
Now, I hope that these decisions, take collegially, putting in place a training of quatre-cinq persons composed of professionals and elected officials.

When there is dispute between the institution and the family, it undergoes a cruel double sanction: she can lose his approval and have removed the child to which it is attached. Do you find this normal?
Minders are salaried General Council, but no guarantees. They may be laid off immediately in case of suspicion. Their salary is then deleted. Pending certainties, should keep his rights to the employee. I note that, before the courts, we lose often. Is this the role of the community to plead against its own employees? I do not think so.

And for la petite Lili, placed at the age of five days in a foster home to Saint-Viaud?
You saw, the child has not been removed. We're going to see during a holiday if it can be a little out. And there will be a re-entry point.

Collected comments parMarylise COURAUD and Gaspard NORRITO


"rights of the child"
One-third of youth in wandering would be children of the Dass and half have no diploma



30.000 to 50.000 young 18 to 24 years occur in a situation of great precariousness or wandering.
Some researchers cite a figure of 100,000.
One-third of youth in wandering would be children of the Dass and half have no diploma.
"When they approach the majority, ESA avoids mobilize for some youth adrift, runaway repeat offenders"
by simply wait until they are 18 years old, date at which administration no longer has to deal with their case.
"Anyway, we lack adequate structures".

.. .on ignores most of the time become them adults.
If the black figure of an investigation by the national Institute of demographic studies (Ined) in 2006
establishing that40% des SDF âgés de 18 à 24 ans sortaient du dispositif de protection de l’enfance40% aged 18-24 SDF leaving the child protection device.

Gouvieux
These students parents protect children
The case of two children that want to retrieve social services turns iron arm. Department requests the use of force.



C.G. - 13.11.2009 - Le Parisien




A small army of shadows is incorporated in a few days around two children living in foster care in Gouvieux and educated at the school of the Centre. Equipped with a battle and a solid organization plan, parents of pupils are everything to thwart the withdrawal of a brother and a sister of the House in which they were placed five years ago by social services.

Tension is mounted a notch since yesterday and the possibility that enforcement requires the two children to follow the Welfare Department officers strengthens.

The decision to transfer youth ages 6 and 10 and a half to a foster home the Compiégnois had been confirmed by justice on 6 November. Last Tuesday, Yves Rome, the Socialist President of the General Council therefore addressed Senlis flooring so that he understands the prefect, only empowered to authorize the use of public force. The case is even more delicate family lives in a housing service of the Aga Khan. The husband, who is an employee of the Aga Khan Studs works for prince equestrian activities. Yesterday, Patrice Marchand, Mayor UMP Gouvieux and also General Counsel opposition has opted for appeasement (see sidebar). Elected officials, very concerned by the case, physically prevented the first attempts at removal of children on November 2.

«»."We are ready to go far enough"

Social services chose to do so, considering that family Assistant exceeded his role and took "unilateral" for young people. An analysis that shocked commune: "How can one blame a host family too love children?" questioned supportive parents. Since Monday, they organize tours of guard and schedules. Every day children arrive and leave quietly school. Eve continues after 4: 30 pm and the end of the course.

"We developed a network of 100 people," explains Nora Ferhat, President of the association of parents of the school of the Centre, dads and Moms volunteers (VMO's). We have phones of those who are contactable at any time after 4: 30 pm. The first contacted know they need to block Street leading to the House with their car. »
How long lasted such a mobilization? This is the question. "We don't know, but we are ready to go far enough," warns Nora Ferhat on behalf of parents.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Host families:
people start to speak

Monday, July 12, 2004 - ouest-france

After the testimony of the family of Saint-Viaud who we wanted to withdraw girl Lili (1), 10 years, placed five days has not withdrawn by his Saint-Viaud homestay (West-June 22 France). At the initiative of Patrick Mareschal, President of the General Council, child welfare decided to allow time for reflection. But since this testimony, languages start. Many families, welcome or allowed children under the aegis of the Ddass, ASE or an association speak for institutions that make little attention to their word. And, providing, do not appreciate the love they bear children.

« Du jour au lendemain »«From one day to the next»Mrs d. hosted Bastien in 1 year. At age 13, "virtually overnight, the institution decided that child would be at the boarding school far from here." I asked if it could not be the closest schooling as petit reacted very badly to this decision. I was not given an explanation. An educator told me that a child may grow in suffering. This behavior is unacceptable. There could be no explanation, preparation. "Mrs d. was dismissed. The case is before the courts.

« Fiers de nos enfants »"Proud of our children"Marie-Annick and Joseph P. allowed both twins. They had 4 years. They were kept for 16 years. "Small had 13 years when tried to implement the home." We fought to ensure that these children remain with us and enjoy a family life education. But the institution told us that she wanted to implement the home because loved it too. In fact, social services do not want respond them. They dismiss annoying people, those that focus on children. "The couple alerted Mayor, school principal, morality, witnesses that it deprives not children. Marie-Annick and Joseph is reached. Offspring remained home up to 18 years and older. "We are proud of them, they are our children," say. To otherwise Norbert for his marriage meant to Marie-Annick: "I have a mother, it is you."

« Travail trop personnel » "Personal work"Mrs. l., childminder, think that in the case of Saint-Viaud, he missed a follow-up of social services. "Children grow up and cling." It does not, ten years after, that it will not. Social workers are too personal work. "In terms of decision-making, they have powers that seem to be very exaggerated".

« On m'a brisée » "On me was broken"Mrs f. wishes to say "that great efforts have been made since the left is passed to the General Council", so that social assistance to children's behaviors are changing. It tells what happened to him: "On alleged abuse on children." Social assistance only gave us a chance. Yet, the Mounties have never thought this history. Me was dismissed without proof. Host families, is less than nothing. And from one day to the next day, no longer has the right to see children. When you wanted to know the reasons for such withdrawal, answered us: "you'll see well". But that case has broken me. "Mrs. f., since then, won her lawsuit abuse of power.

"Mail, more more phone""Antonio brought me so much happiness." Liliane has now estranged from this little boy of 8 years allowed for five years. "Everything started when I opposed her school reorientation towards a specialized Institute." Everything ran amok. Liliane was dismissed due to the disagreement. "I was criticized as if I was her mother." These children are not entitled to be loved like others. The homestay is not entitled to intervene in child-rearing. "Liliane regrets that postcards that she sends fail small Antonio. "One day, it is reverra.».

« Cas social »"Social cases"Isabelle has 27 years now and continues to see that saw him grow his Grandma. She had seven months when she arrived in this homestay. "It was 14 when the Ddass removed him to send it in a home." Is prohibited me to call. I was told was to cut the cord. It it is passed in a week. "But facing a depressed Isabelle educator reminded"Granny"so the teenager can return to his childhood home. All weekends and all holidays. "If there had been problems, it have not entrusted me it again." Today, Isabelle is a somewhat chaotic life. "It's a social case." She would stay home, ç' might have been different. »

Marylise COURAUD and Gaspard NORRITO.

-----------------------------------
Host families: should it change

Tuesday, July 13, 2004

An interview with Patrick Mareschal, President of the General Council

The testimony of foster families raining down from l'histoire de Lili, 10 years, child welfare wanted to place elsewhere (West-France from Monday). Many have suffered in silence, when the children they hosted, sometimes for years, have been removed. Patrick Mareschal, President of the General Council, is a real problem and wants to, inter alia, conditioning withdrawals to serious situations of abuse.

Child welfare, ASE, which depends on the Council, is, as shown in our stories published yesterday, vilified by a number of host families who have been removed children after several years of custody. Withdrawals without appeal and without real justification. What analysis you situation?

There is an underlying problem. The institution decides herself. The relationship between it and host families are unequal. One, the institution has virtually all rights.

It does not facilitate the necessary dialogue. Lot of childminders have something to say, but are not allowed. The institution is still alive with the idea that it is a State authority unrelated to communities. I also think that child welfare professionals lacking jurisdiction and for which I have a lot of respect, is sometimes stay too long in their function. I don't know if it is a job you can do throughout his life.

ESA to motivate its decision often chided families their emotional investment on children they welcome?
First of all, these children have vocation to return to their biological family. They are not adoptable. Whereas, in fact, after several years in the same family, they are like. It is the ambiguity.
The institution said in foster families: "you have no interest in children." She said what is good or not for the child. Loading a purely hardware servicing families. However, these families can do more that feed, clothe and flaring kids. But, on the does them not.
Is that families are there to offset the lack of places in shelters? I wonder. If these children belong to the institution, then, do not leave them ten years in a family.

How can we restore the situation?
Not forget that the General Council is not master all decisions. It is the judge for children who decided at the beginning of the placement. ESA that handles it. The institution is guardian and sole owner of these children. There may be ultra vires. It does not support the contradiction of the debate. The inquiry of the parents must be considered very carefully. We need to limit withdrawals from foster children to serious situations of abuse. There are still too many cases where children are removed because there is a disagreement about what is good or not for the child, for example in terms of educational counselling. And, finally, it is ESA Inspector decides only
Now, I hope that these decisions, take collegially, putting in place a training of quatre-cinq persons composed of professionals and elected officials.

When there is dispute between the institution and the family, it undergoes a cruel double sanction: she can lose his approval and have removed the child to which it is attached. Do you find this normal?
Minders are salaried General Council, but no guarantees. They may be laid off immediately in case of suspicion. Their salary is then deleted. Pending certainties, should keep his rights to the employee. I note that, before the courts, we lose often. Is this the role of the community to plead against its own employees? I do not think so.

And for la petite Lili, placed at the age of five days in a foster home to Saint-Viaud?
You saw, the child has not been removed. We're going to see during a holiday if it can be a little out. And there will be a re-entry point.

Collected comments parMarylise COURAUD and Gaspard NORRITO